Brexit Votes Leave

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Brexit: A Still Life, posted by Anastasia Piliavsky on FB.

I’m too depressed about this, you guys. I’ve never seen the Pound this low in my lifetime. Farage came out an hour ago and said he lied about how this was going to magically fund the NHS. Because of course it was a lie. Cameron’s career is over. Not only will he go down in history as the fool who let the UK destroy their partnership with the EU, but probably who began the process to break up the UK entirely as Northern Ireland and Scotland both voted to Remain and will probably vote to leave the UK in the coming year. Boris Johnson will probably be the new PM. Boris fucking Johnson. I can’t even.

Watching my panicked British friends on twitter last night felt like a prologue to this coming November if Trump starts winning against Hillary. I’m heartsick. I’ll post some nice cat pics later today, but right now I just don’t have it in me to do anything else.

 

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  1. I am so worried about this. Europe has been rejected as England seeks a divorce. The rejected party in such situations is generally bitter and angry and not in a generous and forgiving mood. This could get really nasty. It was barely dawn before Nicola Sturgeon was calling for a new indyref. Since she lost the last one on fears Scotland would be out of the EU she will probably win this one. Scotland voted 2-1 for Europe. Northern Ireland the same. All the small places of Britain looked to EU for protection against London.
    Europe angry, Britain disintegrating, Boris and Farange have sown the wind.
    The world will reap the hurricane.

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  2. “Europe has been rejected as England seeks a divorce.”

    The EU =/= Europe.

    The European Union has been rejected, as the sack of parasitic and undemocratic incompetents it has repeatedly shown itself to be over the past decade.

    By contrast, NATO has not been rejected. The idea of a free-trade common market zone has not been rejected. The Chunnel has not been rejected. The ability to get a passport and take a flight to the continent has not been rejected. A grip seriously needs to be gotten.

    “The rejected party in such situations is generally bitter and angry and not in a generous and forgiving mood.”

    If Germany and France want to play it that way, they are presently sitting on a cauldron of fury from Italy, Greece, Spain, and Portugal, who would quite happily break with the EU to get out from under Juncker’s disastrous austerity regime. That is going to hurt Germany and France far more than it hurts Britain.

    And if Germany and France want to play “free movement” clauses that way, they are presently sitting on a cauldron of fury from Hungary, Poland, Austria, and Slovenia for Merkel’s unilateral and heedless “throw open the floodgates” disaster last year. That, again, is going to hurt export-dependent nations like Germany and France far more than it hurts Britain.

    “This could get really nasty.”

    Indeed. That is entirely up to the masters of the EU, which, admittedly, have been a pack of distilled incompetence for over a decade, and counting, so they are quite likely to make things even worse than they already have.

    “It was barely dawn before Nicola Sturgeon was calling for a new indyref. Since she lost the last one on fears Scotland would be out of the EU she will probably win this one. Scotland voted 2-1 for Europe.”

    Speaking of nasty incompetence … if Brexit is somehow insanely disruptive to an economy, true secession from Britain will be 10x moreso. The UK isn’t being kicked off it’s currency, isn’t having any change to non-EU treaties, isn’t leaving NATO, isn’t being cut off from the largest bank system in Europe, and isn’t being instantly cut off from the EU. Scottish secession would instantly be all of those things, and the English Tories and Labourites would quite clearly say “good riddance and thanks for saving us so much money spent on you” in return.

    Finally, Scotland is not getting into the EU any time soon, and quite possibly never. It takes only one nation to veto an accession for eternity. Neither Spain nor France nor Italy are ever going to rush to let in anyone who is an encouragement to secession movements, and lonely Scotland is not remotely wealthy enough to bribe all three of them at once to look the other way.

    “Northern Ireland the same”

    Northern Ireland can reunite with the rest of the island, so for them, secession isn’t really secession, and it is all probably a wash. Scotland has no such happy embrace waiting for it, anywhere.

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  3. I am glad to see this very different economic point of view put on your blog. In the mainstream press and blogs on-line the vote to leave is described as of two types: the bigoted, intolerant, wrongly fearful of “the other” or immigrants and libertarians (the reductive joke is they are against stop signs). UKIP and the tinier Farage parties have 1% of the vote as of the last election and one MP; there is no equivalent of tea party in the UK as in the US, though there is outright Nazism in these small groups. 52% of British people voted to get out. The third point of view is that the “austerity” policies inflicted (the right word) on the people of Europe on behalf of the investment class is what’s responsible for increasing immiseration among a majority of people, and especially in countries like Greece and Spain. Denmark has never been part of the EU; they have their own currency. The Greeks were afraid to Grexit because they now have Euros and their money would become instantly worthless. Here are three cogent arguments for Brexit from a person who used to write from the Guardian (a newspaper now banned by Trump from his forums). the left-liberal and left-radical point of view the comment above comes out of too*

    Paul Mason interviewed (he used to be a British TV journalist too)

    http://www.democracynow.org/2016/6/27/making_sense_of_brexit_paul_mason

    A blog that Dad used to read daily (Naked Capitalism) was not shocked at all:

    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/06/brexit-the-crisis-begins.html

    This American on-line journal:

    https://ourfuture.org/20160624/brexit-and-the-new-global-rebellion?utm_source=progressive_breakfast&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pbreak

    It’s not just a vote of intolerant bigoted people, or people who love jumping off cliffs, and in a way it should not be a shock — though I was shocked and my blog was for Remain. Arguably, had the Greeks had their own currency, they would have gone for Grexit and would have been better off for it.

    The Intercept (I know you don’t like Greenwald but he is accurate here):

    https://theintercept.com/2016/06/25/brexit-is-only-the-latest-proof-of-the-insularity-and-failure-of-western-establishment-institutions/

    Ellen

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